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07/16/2016 at 12:34 am #383009
Lisa Murray
ParticipantI have purchased Tile Plus Template and the Import extension. I am noting multiple problems, so I am reporting under General Support.
This is a clean wordpress installation and I have attempted to resolve these items by using the WP default theme and have deactivated all plugins while attempting to resolve the issues mentioned below.
I am unable to customize the Tile Plus plugin like the Default plugin because the customize option is not available with Tile Plus. There is very little documentation available for this template. I requested the beta version with the customizer to be able to edit the basic appearance(this was noted to be available in another support thread), but have not had a response yet. It seems my only option currently is Custom CSS, but this isn’t something I’m looking forward to doing on a plugin that I thought was able to be customized.
I am attempting to use the default plugin in liu of Tile Plus but the links and contact information only appear correctly in the Chrome Browser. I have tested this for a theme or plugin conflict and can find none. I have also tested it on multiple machines and still, the only browser that all information appears in consistently is Chrome. In MS Edge, Firefox and Safari the links and contact information doe not consistently display. If I log into the admin dashboard and enter the template customization, the links will display, but if I close the browser and re-open it, they do not display. (See attached screenshot)
Even with the lack of customization, the Tile Plus isn’t a solution for me either. The cards will display in 1, 2 or 3 rows randomly. There is no consistency in the display. (See attached screenshot)
I attempted to use the Import Extension 3 separate times, each subsequent time I deleted all the records and edited the import file to make corrections. I was never able to get a complete and correct import and eventually had to enter and edit much of the information by hand. There were only 26 records, but this is the reason I purchased the extension.
There is a message that the Connections Import has an update available. I just installed this from the purchase I made on 7/9/16 and am unable to complete an update. After attempting to do so, I receive the message “Update package not available.”
This site is still under development and has a maintenance mode cover page. To access it, the link is http://www.pwnh.org/blue/ and the Connections plugin is being used on the this page: http://pwnh.org/member-directory/
This is all quite unacceptable.
I am willing to try and work to resolve these issues, but need to do so quickly so this site can launch. This is the only item still needing completion and it is requiring a great deal of time to trouble shoot and attempt to correct. I had chosen to use the plugin to expedite the formatting process, but the problems are causing me to spend many hours just trying to get it to work properly. If these issues cannot be resolved, I am requesting a full refund for both items purchased since this is within the 14 days time period.
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You must be logged in to view attached files.07/16/2016 at 11:53 am #383067Steven Zahm
Keymaster@ Lisa
re: I am unable to customize the Tile Plus plugin like the Default plugin because the customize option is not available with Tile Plus.
There is… it is just all done via shortcode options rather than the Template Customizer. The beta does have a more options though and it is easier if you are not accustom to shortcodes because it is point and click.
re: I requested the beta version with the customizer to be able to edit the basic appearance(this was noted to be available in another support thread), but have not had a response yet.
I’ll send it after I complete this reply. It is mostly complete, I think. I just want to add more color options to be in feature parity with the cMap template.
re: I am attempting to use the default plugin in liu of Tile Plus but the links and contact information only appear correctly in the Chrome Browser. I have tested this for a theme or plugin conflict and can find none. I have also tested it on multiple machines and still, the only browser that all information appears in consistently is Chrome. In MS Edge, Firefox and Safari the links and contact information doe not consistently display. If I log into the admin dashboard and enter the template customization, the links will display, but if I close the browser and re-open it, they do not display. (See attached screenshot)
Since I can not see the site I’m going to give you my best guesses, with as thorough answers I can give…
The screenshot looks like the Default template, not Tile Plus. So I am not exactly sure what you are trying to show me. I do see that none of the contact info is being displayed and my best guess is that you turned them off in the Template Customizer. When using the Template Customizer you can configure the result list view separately from the single entry view. So it you can figure something to be off in the result list view, it will still show in the single entry view and visa versa. This is by design to give your greater flexibility of what gets presented when. I know this can be a little confusing, but the instructions are right on the Customizer Preview to try to help. If they did not makes sense or was confusing I apologize. If you have suggestions for improvement I would definitely like to hear it as I am always working to improve the docs.
Also, I suspect that you may have enabled the Single Entry Template option on the Connections : Settings admin page under the Display tab. As mentioned in the docs I recommend leaving this option off as it can be confusing because it dynamically changes the template based on the the entry type being viewed when view a single entry vs. the result list which will use the template activated under the All template type.
When adding contact details, each address, phone, email etc. can have a visibility status set. If the contact details are intended to be visible when your site visitor are viewing the page, these need to be set as Public, otherwise they will not be visible. When working in multiple browsers, especially when not logged in on the other browsers, can be confusing why it displays in one browser and not the other. So if you have anything set as Private, make them Public.
Lastly, if you are using page caching via a plugin or server side, always make sure to clear your page cache after making changes. Not doing so can be confusing because you can make a change and not see the result because you are still viewing a cached version of the old page prior to the settings change.
re: Even with the lack of customization, the Tile Plus isn’t a solution for me either. The cards will display in 1, 2 or 3 rows randomly. There is no consistency in the display. (See attached screenshot)
Actually, there is a pattern. There is a break after each last name when the first character changes. After “A” ther is a break, after “B” there is a break, after “D” there is a break and so on.
I know you said you tried with the WP default theme, but, this is definitely being caused by the theme. This is really just a minor CSS conflict. Line 77 of the theme’s CSS is the conflict. The theme author is basically adding a blank space and displaying it as a “table” which is causing the character group sections in the Tile Plus template which are normally floated left to became breaks. Adding the following to the theme’s custom area should help to address this:
#cn-tile-plus div:before, #cn-tile-plus div:after { content: none !important; display: none !important; } #cn-tile-plus div:after { clear:none !important; }re: I attempted to use the Import Extension 3 separate times, each subsequent time I deleted all the records and edited the import file to make corrections. I was never able to get a complete and correct import and eventually had to enter and edit much of the information by hand. There were only 26 records, but this is the reason I purchased the extension.
I would need specific examples and a copy of the CSV file to see if I can duplicate the issue. My suggestion it to use either Google Sheets or LibreOffice Calc to export your CSV file if you are using Excel. Excel can do things to the file in an attempt to be “helpful” but only really end up breaking the ability to properly parse the file. (Generally by not using UTF8 encoding the file and not properly quoting and escaping the file consistently.) Both Google Sheets or LibreOffice Calc are far more reliable.
re: I am willing to try and work to resolve these issues, but need to do so quickly so this site can launch. This is the only item still needing completion and it is requiring a great deal of time to trouble shoot and attempt to correct.
If you can give me access to the site with a temp admin account, any issues can be very quickly resolved.
I hope my answers are helpful and thorough. Let me know if you need any further assistance. I’ll be sending the beta Tile Plus shortly, let me know if you do not receive it.
07/16/2016 at 12:13 pm #383070Steven Zahm
Keymaster@ Lisa
Sorry, I just realized I missed an issue…
re: There is a message that the Connections Import has an update available. I just installed this from the purchase I made on 7/9/16 and am unable to complete an update. After attempting to do so, I receive the message “Update package not available.”
This is a WP error message. I’m really not sure why that one would get displayed. The zip file is definitely available. I just double checked and others have been downloading it.
Best guess as to why you cannot update is that it appears the support license key was not yet activated on the site per the install directions.
If you have not yet activated the support license key, please do and then try updating again. If you still get the same error and/or you are unable to activate it might be that your site for some reason is not able to connect to mine. I’ve personally never run into this issue but I have heard of others who use the same licensing software running into it. Let me know how it goes.
07/16/2016 at 12:37 pm #383073Steven Zahm
Keymaster@ Lisa
I just noticed as I was closing the screenshot of the Tile Plus template that the email links are displayed with an icon both before and after. That too is definitely being added by the theme. Once I have access to the site, I’ll be able to create a CSS statement to override the theme.
07/16/2016 at 1:01 pm #383076Lisa
GuestMaybe we need to handle these issues 1 by 1 because there are so many.
RE: Since I can not see the site I’m going to give you my best guesses, with as thorough answers I can give…
I already provided you with a link to view the site and bypass the maintenance page. Here it is again: http://www.pwnh.org/blue The connections template is being used on this page: http://pwnh.org/member-directory/1st Issue: Default template – Browser conflict problem.
Contact information appears ONLY in Chrome Browser. It is not visible in MS Edge, Safari or Firefox. How is this possible?
Per your suggestion, I have confirmed that all visibility details are public. This should not affect how the information displays from one browser to another.
Per your suggestion, I have confirmed that the Single Entry Template option on the Settings/Display tab is not enabled. This also should not affect how the page displays from one browser to another.
Per your suggestion, I have confirmed that the Customizer options for both the entire listing and single display have the Website, email, phone number and social networks set to display. These settings should also not affect how the pages display from one browser to another.
I have attempted to use the default WP template and this makes no difference in whether the information displays in one browser or another, so I don’t understand your assertion that this is a template conflict. The site is currently using a default template and the problem still exists
It may be possible that the information is displaying in Chrome only because that is the browser I am logged in to, but all of the display options are set to public and the setting on the Settings>Display page DOES NOT require the user to be logged in before viewing the content, so there still appears to be a problem.
Please view the site in different browsers to see if you can observe the problems referenced. (links provided above)
I only purchased the Tile Plus template because of the issues I was having with the display in the default template. Then discovered a new set of issues with the Tile Plus Template. Those will be addresses in a different reply. I would still like to request a refund for the Tile Plus Template which was just purchased yesterday.
07/16/2016 at 1:08 pm #383077Lisa
GuestNext Issue: Problems with the Import Extension
I originally had the information in a Google Sheet, but exported it to Excel CSV so I could more easily work with is. It was always a CSV and never saved as an excel file.
If Google Sheets or LibreOffice Calc are recommended or required to use for this Import extension, then the documentation should say that and advise against using an Excel CSV file.
This is a non-issue now because after many attempts to upload the information unsuccessfully, I gave up on the issue and manually entered the information because it was taking too much time to try and use the “shortcut” that I had purchased.
I just wanted to let you know of the issue. The documentation should be improved to make the process easier to complete without having to request support to be able to use the extension.
Not thrilled with this purchase.
07/16/2016 at 3:00 pm #383080Steven Zahm
Keymaster@ Lisa
re: Maybe we need to handle these issues 1 by 1 because there are so many.
Sounds good it will definitely be easier.
re: 1st Issue: Default template – Browser conflict problem.
In Chrome, first image this is what I see. No contact info, address, phone, email and such. In IE11, Edge, Firefox, second image, I can not see the site at all. But i suspect that I would see the same thing as Chrome


re: It may be possible that the information is displaying in Chrome only because that is the browser I am logged in to
I agree… I do not believe there is any browser conflict issue. I believe the issue is being logged in on one browser vs. not being logged in the others which is if the case then the issue has to be a permissions issue.
I believe we have covered the basic one why it would not display and can not think of another reason. I would like to continue to debug and in order to do so, I’ll nee a temp admin account so I can take a closer look. The login details can be posted here as a private reply.
re: I don’t understand your assertion that this is a template conflict.
This was my response to the display issue with Tile Plus. That was without a doubt a minor CSS conflict with the theme which the CSS I gave should fix.
07/16/2016 at 3:08 pm #383081Lisa Murray
ParticipantThis reply has been marked as private.07/16/2016 at 6:17 pm #383107Steven Zahm
Keymaster@ Lisa
Boy, this was a head scratcher! Took me almost an hour to track the issue, find the cause and the solution. This is a little techincal, I’ll try to keep it as brief and concise as possible.
The issue, the core WP function
is_user_logged_in()was returningtrueregardless if you are logged or not.The cause is SeedProd Coming Soon Pro. When you visit the Bypass URL (something I did not realize I had to do when I was viewing in other browsers) it sets an authentication cookie. This cookie tells WordPress that the current user is logged even if no user is actually logged in.
Connections uses
is_user_logged_in()uses to determine if the address, phone, email, etc should be displayed. But it also uses the core WP functioncurrent_user_can()which reads the current logged in user’s capabilities which can only be read for a user who is actually logged in. This is the secure way of doing things.Since capabilities can only be read of an actual logged user the display of address, phone, email, etc was being hidden — as it should be. Really, none of the entries should have been displayed either, so that is a bug in Connections. One, I’ll have to address.
You can test this… here’s how:
- Go to the SeedProd Coming Soon Pro Settings page.
- Set the Status to Disabled.
- Open a Private/Incognito. Now view your directory, do not log in. The info will display while not logged in. It is important to use a private browsing window due to the authentication cookie still being set in your regular browser session. You would have to clear your cookies to get rid it (closing all browser windows should do the trick too since it is a session cookie).
The solution, honestly, I do not have one other than the issue will go away when you stop using SeedProd Coming Soon Pro.
This is definitely not a bug in Connections. Not sure if it is a bug or feature in SeedProd Coming Soon Pro. I’m kind of leaning towards the later because
is_user_logged_in()should not returntrueif there is not a user logged in. This is a commonly used core WP function so I would expect other oddities to occur in other plugins which use it too.So, this would explain why it seemed very inconsistent whether the details were shown or not. One would not typically look for authentication cookies.
I hope this makes sense and is not confusing. If you have any question about what I’ve explained, please ask.
07/16/2016 at 6:17 pm #383108Steven Zahm
Keymaster@ Lisa
Do we proceed to the next issue? And if we do, which one?
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